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Palladius Ahashion
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:19:00 -
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Yes, this is a forum alt to hide my shame.
I have a confession. I have recently joined a Pirate corp because I've always wanted to get more into PVP. Unfortunately, I'm just terrible at it.
If I could possibly defeat someone they warp around and avoid me, or call in friends. The only fights I can actually get are ones that I don't have much hope of winning. Is this the epic EVE PVP I've been hearing about for years?
There's so much crap to keep track of at once that I forget to do something simple like turn off a MWD or click Keep at Range and I die even faster than I otherwise would have. Manual piloting is a lost cause at my skill level.
I tried flying a bunch of frigates, but got terribly bored because fights were over too fast for me to figure out what I was doing wrong. Not to mention T2 or Faction frigs just wipe the floor with me. Battlecruisers are more my speed right now, though much pricier. That isn't a huge deal since I've carebeared for a long time. Still, my corp is getting annoyed that I'm wrecking their killboard with my constant losses.
I'm not asking how I can slaughter everything endlessly. I'm asking how not to be terrible. Any pointers?
I have about 25m skillpoints. Most of them are in Amarr cruiser/BC/T3/Recon. |

Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.26 02:55:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote: Yes. If the fight is fair, you have already lost. The essence of EVE PvP is to fight on your terms where you know you can win, while making it appear to the enemy that the fight is going well for them so they will actually engage. Get good at deception, intercepting enemies where they don't expect you, hiding your reinforcements until the last possible moment, splitting enemy forces and slaughtering the weak. Meanwhile learn to predict when the hostilesare trying to do the same to you and how to avoid it.
EVE is as "fair" as a game of chess. Does a pawn have a chance to capture a rook by itself? Not in a hundred years. But a good player would never leave their pawns exposed - unless it's for a greater strategic purpose.
So, basically try to guess what the other guy's game is and warp away if I'm not reasonably sure I can kill him before his backup arrives?
But, the other guy's going to be doing the same to me. So, if I surmise that I can beat him then he'll surmise the same thing and disengage unless I'm wrong or he's being crafty.
I never imagined PVP would be 90% feinting and sizing each other up. How the heck do people do all that calculus in the 2 seconds before a fight starts all while juggling modules and managing range/speed? Is it just practice?
Reminds me of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6MRR8IRvDQ |

Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.26 20:26:00 -
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I appreciate all the replies, and especially the link from Jack Dant. It had not occurred to me that I might have such a tough time finding fights because I have a high sec-status still, thus the gate-guns will nearly always be on my side.
I've watched all the Kil2 videos, and listened to his podcast, but I can tell it's going to take a lot of blown up BCs before I really get it. That stuff reminds me of a "Learn to Play Guitar" video I once saw by Yngwie Malmsteen. He makes it look so easy... |

Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:12:00 -
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I appreciate all the responses here. I have decided to leave my current corp. There aren't many active players in it, and they start their roams about an hour after I go to bed. They get pissy about my play schedule and my lack of PVP skillz. Even so, I'm really at a loss as to what to do next. I'm willing to get exploded as often as it takes to learn, but my play time is not infinite. Other than RvB, can anyone recommend a decent, ACTIVE, PvP focused corp that would recruit someone with almost zero PvP experience and train them to not suck? |

Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:44:00 -
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Yeah, just noticed that. I'll definitely give them a look. |

Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:43:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt.
With all the ISK farming I'd have to do to pay for the extra accounts, toons, PLEX, and ships when would I have time to PVP?
And if I'm gonna blow all that cash on winning, why wouldn't I just pay people to let me kill them? |
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